{"id":7093,"date":"2007-05-16T12:04:48","date_gmt":"2007-05-16T12:04:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.earthwidemoth.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/16\/lyon-rhetoric-a\/"},"modified":"2007-05-16T12:04:48","modified_gmt":"2007-05-16T12:04:48","slug":"lyon-rhetoric-a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.earthwidemoth.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/16\/lyon-rhetoric-a\/","title":{"rendered":"Lyon, &quot;Rhetoric and Hermeneutics&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">\u23f3 Approximate reading time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 4<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">mins<\/span><\/span><p style=\"text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0in\">Lyon, Arabella. &quot;Rhetoric and Hermeneutics.&quot; Perspectives on Rhetorical<br \/>\nInvention. Eds. Janet Atwill and Janice Lauer. Knoxville, Tenn.: Univ. of<br \/>\nTennessee P, 2002. 36-52.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Lyon works at the intersection of <b>rhetoric and hermeneutics<\/b> in an<br \/>\neffort to make sense of the relationship between the two concepts. To<br \/>\nweigh the terms and explore their interrelationship, she uses <b>invention<\/b><br \/>\nas a fulcrum. Rhetoric and hermeneutics, Lyon explains, both can be<br \/>\nthought inventive, but they are not equal terms with respect to invention.<br \/>\nLyon is concerned that &quot;[b]y turning toward interpretation and away from<br \/>\nproduction and making, rhetoricians have diminished the place of rhetoric as an<br \/>\naction in the world&quot; (36). With this, Lyon makes a strong argument for the<br \/>\ninventive orientation of rhetoric the must not be lost with turns to rhetorical<br \/>\ncriticism, hermeneutic invention, or rhetorical reading. Hermeneutics and<br \/>\nrhetoric are &quot;not the same project&quot; (37).<\/p>\n<p>Lyon attributes one explanation of the interpretive renewal in traditional<br \/>\nrhetoric to Dilip Gaonkar and Michael Leff who &quot;draw attention to the<br \/>\nrelationship between interprettion and agency&quot; (39), keeping them separate<br \/>\nrather than working to harmonize them. Next, Lyon sets out to examine two<br \/>\ntreatments of the relationship between hermeneutics and rhetoric: one she<br \/>\nregards favorably by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gadamer\">Hans-Georg<br \/>\nGadamer<\/a> and one she regards skeptically by Steven Mailloux. Gadamer reserves<br \/>\nsome distinctions between hermeneutics and rhetoric; toward a &quot;philosophical<br \/>\nhermeneutics&quot; he says they are &quot;interdependent&quot; and they &quot;work synergistically&quot;<br \/>\n(40). Lyon explains Gadamer&#8217;s stance: &quot;Hermeneutics is a re-vision of an earlier<br \/>\nproduction, an earlier invention. Hence, hermeneutics is dependent on what is<br \/>\nsaid or written. There is a crucial rhetorical event (invention) priotr to<br \/>\ninterpretation&quot; (41). <\/p>\n<p>Mailloux, on the other hand, defines rhetoric in such a way that &quot;emphasizes<br \/>\nthe cultural effects of and response to a text and ignores the rhetor&#8217;s activity<br \/>\nof purposeful production&quot; (42). Lyon takes exception with Mailloux&#8217;s discussion<br \/>\nof how interpretation works, particularly for his mention of &quot;translation&quot; and<br \/>\n&quot;transformation&quot; (42c). She contends that by <b>collapsing rhetoric and<br \/>\nhermeneutics<\/b>, Mailloux&#8217;s approach glosses significant distinctions between<br \/>\nthe two concepts as it relies on a logic that slides from hermeneutics to<br \/>\nrhetoric: &quot;hermeneutics is argument is rhetoric.&quot; This risks reducing rhetorical<br \/>\ntheory to &quot;linguistic situations&quot; alone (45c). <\/p>\n<p>Continuing, Lyon discloses a preference for keeping hermeneutics and rhetoric<br \/>\ndistinct. She examines three interpretive-productive modes to attenuate<br \/>\nthe distinctions: <b>rhetorical invention, hermeneutical invention, and<br \/>\nrhetorical reading<\/b>. Rhetorical invention applies to a certain contextual<br \/>\nnovelty (not wholly made up because of the accruals of language), whereas<br \/>\nhermeneutical invention is much more closely aligned with paraphrasing.<br \/>\nHermeneutical invention, like rhetorical reading, is &quot;a <b>mediation<\/b>&quot; (48d,<br \/>\n49a). <\/p>\n<p>Finally, Lyon reasserts what is useful from Gadamer&#8217;s nuanced stance on the<br \/>\nsubtle distinctions between hermeneutics and rhetoric. Gadamer&#8217;s fusing of<br \/>\nhorizons allows for prejudice, for bias, for the ways texts act on us and<br \/>\ninfiltrate us, as &quot;the text becomes part of our being&quot; (50). Lyon calls for<br \/>\ncaution over allowing interpretive modes to detract from rhetorical invention:<br \/>\n&quot;Rhetoric&#8217;s increasing affiliation with textual reception, specifically<br \/>\nGadamer&#8217;s hermeneutics, while increasing concern with discourse and text,<br \/>\npotentially diminishes many aspects of textual production and rhetoric&quot; (50). <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Consider the ways hermeneutics, particularly philosophical hermeneutics,<br \/>\n\tmight tie in with &quot;<b>wonder<\/b>&quot; as a shared dimension of invention (from<br \/>\n\tconference).<\/li>\n<li>Lyon&#8217;s critique of Mailloux&#8217;s use of &quot;translation&quot; considers translation<br \/>\n\tas discursive\/discursive or linguistic\/linguistic, but never <b><br \/>\n\tdiscursive\/extra- or non-discursive,<\/b> never <b>linguistic\/visual<\/b>. I<br \/>\n\tdon&#8217;t mean that this is the sort of translation Mailloux considers, either,<br \/>\n\tbut it does seem to be one limitation of the critique. How would the<br \/>\n\thermeneutics\/rhetorics discussion shift if production,<br \/>\n\ttranslation\/mediation, and interpretation were opened to encompass<br \/>\n\tnon-discursive forms as would be necessary to carry this over to the <b><br \/>\n\tdigital order<\/b>?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&quot;I believe the concept of invention allows us to begin to separate<br \/>\nhermeneutics from rhetoric; moreover, this process of differentiation shows both<br \/>\nwhere rhetorical invention lies and how inventive rhetorical invention can be&quot;<br \/>\n(39).<\/p>\n<p>&quot;My point here, that rhetoric and hermeneutics both engage processes of<br \/>\nproduction and reception, is not controversial. The controversies turn on the<br \/>\nextent to which each is characterized by production and reception and the degree<br \/>\nto which any type of production or reception is similar in the context of rhetor<br \/>\nand audience purposes.&quot; (43). <\/p>\n<p>&quot;Hermeneutics is a theory not about the effect on an audience, but about the<br \/>\ntruth-seeking approach of an educated interpreter&quot; (44).<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Hermeneutics may require an argument; interpretation does not&quot; (45).<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Furthermore, I suspect one can make too easy an argument for rhetorical<br \/>\nsituation as encompassing more than linguistic situations, starting with the<br \/>\nexample of the Titanic and working up to armed robberies and bad dates&quot; (45).<\/p>\n<p>&quot;It is my belief that we learn more about the concepts and our practices from<br \/>\nthe difficult task of differentiating hermeneutics and rhetoric than from that<br \/>\nof collapsing them&quot; (46). <\/p>\n<p>&quot;In Gadamerian hermeneutics, the interpreter stops interrogating and<br \/>\nmanipulating the text and allows the text to interrogate our prejudices and<br \/>\nintentions and finally to be applied in our present situation&quot; (49). <\/p>\n<p>&quot;The point of hermeneutical invention is to produce a new position for the<br \/>\ninterpreter&quot; (50).<\/p>\n<p>Terms: rhetoric, invention, hermeneutics, Gadamer, Mailloux, interpretation,<br \/>\nreading, theory, discourse, mediation, language, audience, production,<br \/>\nreception, translation, transformation, understanding, horizon, wonder<\/p>\n<dl>\n<dt>Related sources:<\/dt>\n<dd>Gadamer, Hans-Georg. &quot;Rhetoric, Hermeneutics, and the Critique of Ideology:<br \/>\nMetacritical Comments on Truth and Method.&quot; <i>The Hermeneutics Reader<\/i>. Ed.<br \/>\nKurt Mueller-Vollmer. New York: Continuum, 1992. 274-92.<\/dd>\n<dd>Mailloux, Steven. &quot;Articulation and Understanding: The Pragmatic Intimacy<br \/>\nBetween Rhetoric and Hermeneutics.&quot; <i>Rhetoric and Hermeneutics in Our Time: A<br \/>\nReader<\/i>. Ed. Walter Jost and Michael Hyde. Princeton: Yale UP, 1997. 378-94.<\/dd>\n<dd>Mailloux, Steven. <i>Rhetorical Power<\/i>. Ithaca: Cornell UP, 1989.<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">\u23f3 Approximate reading time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 4<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">mins<\/span><\/span>Lyon, Arabella. &quot;Rhetoric and Hermeneutics.&quot; Perspectives on Rhetorical Invention. Eds. Janet Atwill and Janice Lauer. 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