{"id":6950,"date":"2008-05-20T09:10:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-20T09:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.earthwidemoth.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/20\/for-the-third-o\/"},"modified":"2008-05-20T09:10:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-20T09:10:00","slug":"for-the-third-o","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.earthwidemoth.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/20\/for-the-third-o\/","title":{"rendered":"For The Third or Fourth Time"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">\u23f3 Approximate reading time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 4<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">mins<\/span><\/span><p>From today&#8217;s <i>IHE<\/i>,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/insidehighered.com\/news\/2008\/05\/20\/double\">a piece on<br \/>\ndouble-dipping conference presentations<\/a>. This is a practice that has been on<br \/>\nmy mind somewhat during this, the most conference-intensive stretch of my<br \/>\ncurrent program of study. Of course, the very idea of &quot;double-dipping&quot;<br \/>\nresonates with the bucket (or well) model of invention that, at its best, smacks<br \/>\nof individualism and zero-sum economics and, at its worst, echoes of such<br \/>\nhorrifying social<br \/>\n(and professional) improprieties as standing over a vegetable tray at a faculty<br \/>\ngathering and using, re-using, and re-re-using the same celery stalk as a salivated<br \/>\ndipping stick for that zesty (&quot;Maybe dill?&quot;) salad dressing. The views included<br \/>\nin the short article range from the cynical to the more generous-spirited.<br \/>\nFrom the cynical camp, a shot about dumbfounded graduate students who are<br \/>\noblivious to the ethics of reperforming (revising, retooling, redelivering,<br \/>\netc.) one&#8217;s work:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As Nelson C. Dometrius, a professor of political science at Texas Tech<br \/>\n\tUniversity, writes in his introduction to [the debate featured in <i>PS:<br \/>\n\tPolitical Science and Politics<\/i>], when he raised the question with senior<br \/>\n\tfaculty members, he received mixed reactions, with people quickly outlining<br \/>\n\tspecial cases where they viewed such &quot;double dipping&quot; as justified. When he<br \/>\n\tposed the same question to graduate students, Dometrius relates, &quot;the modal<br \/>\n\treply was a blank stare &#8212; a lack of comprehension that presenting the same<br \/>\n\tpaper as many times as you wished would be viewed by anyone as an unusual or<br \/>\n\tquestionable practice.&quot;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know whether this says more about Dometrius, about the graduate<br \/>\nstudents at Texas Tech (less likely), or about advanced graduate study in<br \/>\npolitical science (even less likely), but it&#8217;s a take that doesn&#8217;t carry all<br \/>\nthat well over into my own experience developing and giving conference talks in<br \/>\nrecent years. If we are not to be flavor-of-the-week-ademics, isn&#8217;t some<br \/>\nreturn inevitable? What&#8217;s implied here is that carry-over is suspicious, an<br \/>\nindication that someone is slacking off or falsifying a work record. <\/p>\n<p>On a more nuanced note, the exec. director of MLA&#8211;who was quoted in the<br \/>\narticle&#8211;suggests that re-use is smart and appropriate, especially when you take<br \/>\naudience into account. If the audience is not the same from conference to<br \/>\nconference, the matter of &quot;double-dipping&quot; becomes less a question of<br \/>\nconferencing ethics and more a question of growing one&#8217;s vita by dubious means<br \/>\n(i.e., double-dipping as the HGH of higher ed). I would guess this works<br \/>\nvery differently when, for a dissertating graduate student, the list of life&#8217;s<br \/>\nwork is fairly short and centered on a small number of projects than it would<br \/>\naround year six or seven of an assistant professorship, after the chance to give<br \/>\nthe dissertation a rest, pour your heart into a couple of different projects,<br \/>\nand perhaps even land a book contract. Artificial vita cultivation and re-tread<br \/>\nscholarship: who really believes there will not come a day of reckoning for<br \/>\nthese practices? <\/p>\n<p>One of the messages I return to from early in coursework: you can write<br \/>\ninsightfully and meaningfully about your work from any point in it, whether you are just beginning<br \/>\nto find a research question, whether you have written full articles on the<br \/>\nmatter, or whether you have dedicated twenty years to this or that interest.<br \/>\nCould this be construed as a kind of one-trick-ponyism? Perhaps. But<br \/>\nit is not easy to decide without knowing better the work in question. Of<br \/>\ncourse it&#8217;s possible to re-use one&#8217;s own stuff lazily, but all re-use, all<br \/>\n&quot;self-plagiarism,&quot; need not fall into that category of suspicion.<\/p>\n<p>I am tempted to leap to personal anecdotes as a way to wander through this<br \/>\nquestion a bit more. Those (i.e., the three of you) who have heard more<br \/>\nthan one of my conference papers in recent years will recognize overlaps,<br \/>\nrecurring interests, and ideas that re-appear because they click. But I am not<br \/>\ngiving the same paper in any two cases. Not exactly. Neither am I<br \/>\nwriting what I think of as purely original conference papers, since they all<br \/>\nrise from an accumulating slosh of ideas and clusters of interests (providing<br \/>\ncopies of them is one measure of verification, but what about those<br \/>\nextemporaneous talks?). The conferencing record is like a listing of<br \/>\ncousins, not strangers, not siblings (most certainly not twins, which seem to be<br \/>\nthe concern of the article). But then again,<br \/>\nperhaps I am merely invoking (to the point of abusing?) that graduate student<br \/>\nexemption that grants greater leniency to experimentation, to trying ideas and<br \/>\npresentational styles on for size, while trudging through all of those<br \/>\npre-professional uncertainties. <\/p>\n<p>I have to stop here, but there are a couple of other matters of interest<br \/>\ntouched off by the piece:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Self-plagiarism as a concept (closely related: self-citation).<br \/>\n\tAlso as a hypocritical practice (i.e., teachers forbid undergraduates from<br \/>\n\tre-using papers across the curriculum, but themselves&#8211;allegedly&#8211;do it).<br \/>\n\tThe article does not provide examples, and the only ones I can think of<br \/>\n\t(aside from the obvious sharing of curricular materials, syllabi, etc.) are<br \/>\n\twhere an article evolves into a book chapter, but this practice is, as far<br \/>\n\tas I know, widely accepted.<\/li>\n<li>Whether publishing formalities apply to the conferencing circuits.<br \/>\n\tIf published articles have much greater purchase for tenure, wouldn&#8217;t<br \/>\n\tself-duplication in formal publications reflect the lackadaisical attitudes<br \/>\n\ttoward re-used conference materials? Some of this goes back to acceptance<br \/>\n\tsystems, double-blind peer review, etc.<\/li>\n<li>What of the practice of re-using conference proposals? Some lore<br \/>\n\tabout this circulates&#8211;the conference-goer who got in [to XYZ national<br \/>\n\tconference] using the exact same proposal. Ethically objectionable? Change<br \/>\n\tthe title, re-submit the proposal. Does it matter whether the<br \/>\n\tconference presentation was &quot;original&quot; if the proposal was a duplicate?<\/li>\n<li>Do political scientists study Bakhtin?<\/li>\n<li>The table, &quot;Duplicate Presentations, by Year Doctorate Received,&quot; is<br \/>\n\tfascinating in the trend it projects: by the year 3,000&#8211;for better or<br \/>\n\tworse&#8211;all conference<br \/>\n\tpresentations will be double-dipped.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">\u23f3 Approximate reading time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 4<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">mins<\/span><\/span>From today&#8217;s IHE, a piece on double-dipping conference presentations. This is a practice that has been on my mind somewhat during this, the most conference-intensive stretch of my current program of study. Of course, the very idea of &quot;double-dipping&quot; resonates with the bucket (or well) model of invention that, at its best, smacks of individualism&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[49],"tags":[648,761,834,835,836,837,838,380,140],"class_list":["post-6950","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-academe","tag-conference","tag-delivery","tag-ethics","tag-originality","tag-plagiarism","tag-presentation","tag-professionalism","tag-vitae","tag-writing"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>For The Third or Fourth Time - Earth Wide Moth<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.earthwidemoth.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/20\/for-the-third-o\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"For The Third or Fourth Time - Earth Wide Moth\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u23f3 Approximate reading time:  4 minsFrom today&#8217;s IHE, a piece on double-dipping conference presentations. 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