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I use <i>pursue<\/i> loosely and with a<br \/>\nstring of asterisks, of course, since this year I am only something like<br \/>\none-tenth on the market and nine-tenths <i>not<\/i>. I mean that I am going<br \/>\nthrough the material preparations processes <i>as if<\/i> I am on the market and<br \/>\nwill only apply for positions too sweet to resist, provided, also, that I&#8217;m<br \/>\nmaking progress on the diss. Why? Well, it would take an offer somewhere<br \/>\nin the ball park of a<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/sportsillustrated.cnn.com\/2007\/basketball\/nba\/wires\/06\/02\/2030.ap.bkn.magic.donovan.0758\/\"><br \/>\nfive-year contract and 27.5 million<\/a> a year for us to relocate before Ph.&#8217;s<br \/>\nsenior year of high school. Make that 30 mil. On top of that, it&#8217;s not<br \/>\nespecially ethical or wise (in terms of reputation-building) for me to court<br \/>\njobs I have no genuine interest in filling from the outset. While I would<br \/>\nlike to dangle a toe in the waters of interviewing and giving job talks, I won&#8217;t<br \/>\nbe pitching jobs for that reason alone. The process is too grueling for<br \/>\ncandidates <i>and<\/i> committees to tie up everyone&#8217;s time and resources on my<br \/>\ndesire for full-on play-acting the year before I go on the market in earnest.<br \/>\nBetter to spend those energies building bridges (i.e., writing, conferencing,<br \/>\netc.) rather than dismantling them. <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I have a fairly short list of criteria for my optimum job (#1. It pays. #2.<br \/>\nFringe benefits, such as health insurance. #3. The institution is accredited.<br \/>\n#4. Not more than a 5\/5 load. And so on&#8230;). But after those factors, I<br \/>\nunderstand that there are many, many variables involved that have bearing on a<br \/>\ncandidate&#8217;s fit, several of which are outside of the candidate&#8217;s control.<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s enough to say about this that I probably ought to make it a separate<br \/>\nentry rather than ramble through it all right now. Jeff&#8217;s point about<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ydog.net\/?p=427\">good colleagues<\/a> resonates with me. Entering<br \/>\nan embattled department, while possible (I accept!), is <i>not<\/i> how I want to<br \/>\nlive out my first years on the job. May I be so fortunate as to land in a<br \/>\nprogram where people like and respect each other, where they get along<br \/>\nprofessionally even if they are not best chums.<\/p>\n<p>What else came up in the meeting? The bullet-by-bullet-by-bullet:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>We talked about institutional differences, from R1 and R2 to<br \/>\n\tcomprehensive colleges, liberal arts colleges, community colleges, and<br \/>\n\ttechnical colleges. Expectations are all over the map&#8211;likely to<br \/>\n\tfluctuate quite a bit among the types.<\/li>\n<li>How are administrative duties distinct from forms of service? My<br \/>\n\tnotes have it that administration places a clearer emphasis on leadership<br \/>\n\tand responsibility, where service is a slightly different designation for<br \/>\n\tinvolvement (committees, advising, etc.). <\/li>\n<li>Fledgling CVs ought not to look qualification-desperate. Use care<br \/>\n\tin over-logging the minutiae of every meeting you attended in your graduate<br \/>\n\tprogram. It fills a CV&#8217;s pages, but there&#8217;s no substitute for a<br \/>\n\tdemonstrable record of research, teaching, and service (no matter the<br \/>\n\textraneous yarns and additives). Along these lines, I described my own CV as<br \/>\n\tthe junk-drawer version. I&#8217;m still in the mode of tossing everything<br \/>\n\tinto it, but I understand that filtering is due before it would circulate to<br \/>\n\tany hiring committee. <\/li>\n<li>Connected to this previous point, we talked about whether there are<br \/>\n\trisks involved with keeping online versions of materials that don&#8217;t match<br \/>\n\tverbatim with paper-bound materials. In other words, must an online CV<br \/>\n\tbe an exact match with the copy that goes off in pursuit of a job?<br \/>\n\tProbably (right?). Transclusive texts&#8211;those existing in multiple<br \/>\n\tversions&#8211;can lead to unnecessary confusion, and confusion over a<br \/>\n\tcandidate&#8217;s record can be disastrous. <\/li>\n<li>What are the ethics involved for graduate students listing in-progress<br \/>\n\tpublications on their CVs? On the one hand, we want the CV to do the<br \/>\n\twork of answering what we&#8217;re working on now. &quot;Oh, it says here that<br \/>\n\tyou have an article in-progress.&quot; But should an article <i>ever<\/i> be<br \/>\n\tlisted on the CV before it is sent out? In other words, how many<br \/>\n\tdifferent designations are appropriate for in-progress works: submitted,<br \/>\n\tunder consideration, in-progress, under review, accepted, etc.? I&#8217;m of a<br \/>\n\tmind to err on the side of conservativism for this one. Seems risky to<br \/>\n\tlist anything that hasn&#8217;t been touched by the USPS (or an editor&#8217;s email<br \/>\n\tserver for electronic submissions).<\/li>\n<li>My articulation of the conditions surrounding the ideal job got me<br \/>\n\tthinking more about my own confidence. I am a confident teacher; I am<br \/>\n\tlearning to be a confident researcher. I have no concerns whatsoever about<br \/>\n\tbeing a good colleague, a steady contributor when it comes to service,<br \/>\n\tadministration, and so on (unless I fail to say <i>no<\/i> and end up taking<br \/>\n\ton too much). But the teaching\/research confidence issue leaches into my<br \/>\n\tdescription of the ideal job. In other words, I still find it much<br \/>\n\teasier to discuss the appeal I find in teaching-intensive appointments<br \/>\n\tcompared to research-intensive appointments. Might be true for many<br \/>\n\tgraduate students who have taught extensively but who have published<br \/>\n\tconsiderably less if at all.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next meeting in +\/- three weeks when we take up job letters.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">\u23f3 Approximate reading time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 3<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">mins<\/span><\/span>We held our first job-seekers meeting yesterday afternoon, spent a couple of hours going over each other&#8217;s CV and talking through how we rank criteria for the jobs we will soon pursue. 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